Update 1/15/17 Yo wayne, just wanted to let u know I tried out the board today. Lymans was 3-4 ft super glassy. The dyna was magic! I totally get the extra volume you recommended! It really does glide. Hands down the fastest longboard down the line. It required zero pumping or butt wiggling. It seem to create its own speed! the fins are a perfect blend of hold and looseness. Mahalos!